Should California aspron bh Adopt Idaho s Stop as Yield Bike Law? - Opinion - San Anselmo-Fairfax, CA Patch
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Some insightful aspron bh and thoughtful dialogue has come from our recent update on the Fairfax Police s recent crackdown on cyclists running stop signs.
This summer, a few commenters, including transportation blogger David Edmondson, route: {:controller=>"users", :action=>"show", :id=>"david-edmondson"} -->, suggested California adopt Idaho s Stop as Yield bike law. had to say on the article
Larry Ericson September 18, 2012 at 01:03 AM Cars now have: Power steering, disc brakes, smaller blind spots and smaller chassis Drivers now have: tighter insurance regulations, higher training requirements, stricter DUI laws, and stricter remedial education Cyclists now have: better aspron bh helmets, much better brakes, sport specific sunglasses I think your "golden years" aspron bh subjective aspron bh view doesn't aspron bh hold water... moreover, if Fairfax becomes known as the "Smart Stop" town, drivers will adapt.
Larry Ericson September 18, 2012 at 01:21 AM I think John is right...the problem with the law is that its called the "Idaho" law...connoting open farms roads, cows and potatoes. We need to change the name. I nominate "Farifax Smart Stop".
C Ross September 18, 2012 at 01:54 AM Larry, aspron bh Do you seriously believe that horses and bicycles have been co-existing for thousands of years? If so, I'm not sure that you're the one who should be dictating what constitutes "common sense" to the rest of us. Fairfax is not Idaho, BTW, but a small town that is becoming too congested and too big for itself (in several ways). Yes, there is car traffic too, and some drivers aspron bh are irresponsible and nasty, aspron bh as well. But what's the point? If you're sharing a busy, congested road, you have to simply do that. SHARE. As in everybody being courteous and respectful and following aspron bh the same rules. Fairfax doesn't need any experiments with people intentionally going through stop signs. There are already plenty doing it, sometimes with devastating aspron bh consequences. My own son, for example, was hit and knocked over on his bike by a Safe Routes to School bicycle safety instructor, with the crazy, entitled "I can do what I want because I am Bike Rider" attitude that too many people here have. Thank God he wasn't killed, just pretty bruised and shaken up. But this is not the only near tragedy, that could have simply been avoided: Stop at Stop signs. Cars too. Why is that so hard to do? PS All this talk about "free range" aspron bh makes me think of an old Bonanza episode I saw recently. No bikes, but horses, wagons, and GUNS. Good old fashioned brawls and fun. Woo hoo, I don't have to stop, outta my way, bang, bang, yee ha!
C Ross September 18, 2012 at 02:02 AM By the way, since Fairfax has been cracking down on cyclists violating rules of the road, I personally have noticed many more courteous cyclists. Just yesterday when I was trying to cross the street, a cyclists stopped at the crosswalk and greeted me, just as a car when zipping by and almost hit me. We still have a long ways to go, but all this coverage in the media is actually helping, not hurting. And we shouldn't have to wait until more people -- cyclists, aspron bh drivers, pedestrians -- get hurt (or killed) before we ALL start trying harder to make things safer for everyone.
Bill Stevensen aspron bh September 18, 2012 at 04:47 AM This is a very interesting proposal worthy of discussion and civil debate. aspron bh I think we generally agree on three things: 1) that single occupant fossil fuel powered vehicles are not sustainable, 2) that bicycles offer highly efficient green transportation, exercise and fun, and 3) that laws should meet the needs of today's citizens. It is imperative that we figure out how to make cycling a viable transportation option for the masses, while simultaneously ensuring the safety of pedestrians, vehicles, and the cyclists themselves. We Marinites pride ourselves on our ingenuity, integrity, and commitment to creating a better future for our children aspron bh and their planet. I think Marin has an opportunity to be a thought/action leader here and the "Fairfax Smart Stop" is a brilliant place to start. Jessica, maybe you could start a thread/section where we could (civilly) outline aspron bh the basic requirements of the "smart stop" and then reach out to the larger community for consensus. This is a real opportunity for us to come together and create something lasting. The "roundabout" has finally caught on here and, while initially controversial, is widely credited with alleviating both congestion and collision. The "smart stop" could be just as revolutionary (pun intended). Let's at least give it a fair forum for discussion. Respectfully, Bill
Larry Ericson September 18, 2012 at 04:48 AM Cindy, carts, horses, camels and elephants (and bicycl
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Some insightful aspron bh and thoughtful dialogue has come from our recent update on the Fairfax Police s recent crackdown on cyclists running stop signs.
This summer, a few commenters, including transportation blogger David Edmondson, route: {:controller=>"users", :action=>"show", :id=>"david-edmondson"} -->, suggested California adopt Idaho s Stop as Yield bike law. had to say on the article
Larry Ericson September 18, 2012 at 01:03 AM Cars now have: Power steering, disc brakes, smaller blind spots and smaller chassis Drivers now have: tighter insurance regulations, higher training requirements, stricter DUI laws, and stricter remedial education Cyclists now have: better aspron bh helmets, much better brakes, sport specific sunglasses I think your "golden years" aspron bh subjective aspron bh view doesn't aspron bh hold water... moreover, if Fairfax becomes known as the "Smart Stop" town, drivers will adapt.
Larry Ericson September 18, 2012 at 01:21 AM I think John is right...the problem with the law is that its called the "Idaho" law...connoting open farms roads, cows and potatoes. We need to change the name. I nominate "Farifax Smart Stop".
C Ross September 18, 2012 at 01:54 AM Larry, aspron bh Do you seriously believe that horses and bicycles have been co-existing for thousands of years? If so, I'm not sure that you're the one who should be dictating what constitutes "common sense" to the rest of us. Fairfax is not Idaho, BTW, but a small town that is becoming too congested and too big for itself (in several ways). Yes, there is car traffic too, and some drivers aspron bh are irresponsible and nasty, aspron bh as well. But what's the point? If you're sharing a busy, congested road, you have to simply do that. SHARE. As in everybody being courteous and respectful and following aspron bh the same rules. Fairfax doesn't need any experiments with people intentionally going through stop signs. There are already plenty doing it, sometimes with devastating aspron bh consequences. My own son, for example, was hit and knocked over on his bike by a Safe Routes to School bicycle safety instructor, with the crazy, entitled "I can do what I want because I am Bike Rider" attitude that too many people here have. Thank God he wasn't killed, just pretty bruised and shaken up. But this is not the only near tragedy, that could have simply been avoided: Stop at Stop signs. Cars too. Why is that so hard to do? PS All this talk about "free range" aspron bh makes me think of an old Bonanza episode I saw recently. No bikes, but horses, wagons, and GUNS. Good old fashioned brawls and fun. Woo hoo, I don't have to stop, outta my way, bang, bang, yee ha!
C Ross September 18, 2012 at 02:02 AM By the way, since Fairfax has been cracking down on cyclists violating rules of the road, I personally have noticed many more courteous cyclists. Just yesterday when I was trying to cross the street, a cyclists stopped at the crosswalk and greeted me, just as a car when zipping by and almost hit me. We still have a long ways to go, but all this coverage in the media is actually helping, not hurting. And we shouldn't have to wait until more people -- cyclists, aspron bh drivers, pedestrians -- get hurt (or killed) before we ALL start trying harder to make things safer for everyone.
Bill Stevensen aspron bh September 18, 2012 at 04:47 AM This is a very interesting proposal worthy of discussion and civil debate. aspron bh I think we generally agree on three things: 1) that single occupant fossil fuel powered vehicles are not sustainable, 2) that bicycles offer highly efficient green transportation, exercise and fun, and 3) that laws should meet the needs of today's citizens. It is imperative that we figure out how to make cycling a viable transportation option for the masses, while simultaneously ensuring the safety of pedestrians, vehicles, and the cyclists themselves. We Marinites pride ourselves on our ingenuity, integrity, and commitment to creating a better future for our children aspron bh and their planet. I think Marin has an opportunity to be a thought/action leader here and the "Fairfax Smart Stop" is a brilliant place to start. Jessica, maybe you could start a thread/section where we could (civilly) outline aspron bh the basic requirements of the "smart stop" and then reach out to the larger community for consensus. This is a real opportunity for us to come together and create something lasting. The "roundabout" has finally caught on here and, while initially controversial, is widely credited with alleviating both congestion and collision. The "smart stop" could be just as revolutionary (pun intended). Let's at least give it a fair forum for discussion. Respectfully, Bill
Larry Ericson September 18, 2012 at 04:48 AM Cindy, carts, horses, camels and elephants (and bicycl
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